Comments on: Leading Restaurateur Says Fast Food’s Future Is Vegan https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/ Disrupting The Conventional Narrative Wed, 11 May 2022 19:26:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.9.3 By: Bridget Demarsh https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/#comment-7283 Wed, 11 May 2022 19:26:43 +0000 https://plantbasednews.org/?p=266358#comment-7283 In reply to Holger Lundstrom.

Thanks for your comment Holger,
Studies actually show that inflammatory markers are not increased when someone eats a food rich in Omega-6s. (https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/104/12/6207/5540968) There are plenty of plant oils rich in Omega-3s, and free of trans fats. Saturated animal fats are significantly worse in every aspect.

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By: Holger Lundstrom https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/#comment-7266 Tue, 10 May 2022 06:19:29 +0000 https://plantbasednews.org/?p=266358#comment-7266 In reply to Plant Based News Moderator.

That is incorrect. Sunflower oil, for example, contains excessive amounts of inflammatory omega-6-fatty acids. In regards to fast food, which is what we were talking about, industrial plant fats also contain trans fats, which are proven to be unhealthy. And again, just posting one study doesn’t make your claim true. Your last one is about plant based diets no less. Completely besides the point.

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By: Plant Based News Moderator https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/#comment-7194 Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:25:29 +0000 https://plantbasednews.org/?p=266358#comment-7194 In reply to Holger Lundstrom.

Hi Holger,
The point was you said that plant oils are worse than saturated animal fats- that study, among others, proves what we already know, plant oils are far better than saturated animal fats. You can absolutely swap out the butter in your diet for plant oils. I’m sure the scientists would disagree that it is a gimmick. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35307047/

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By: Holger Lundstrom https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/#comment-7193 Mon, 25 Apr 2022 18:15:38 +0000 https://plantbasednews.org/?p=266358#comment-7193 In reply to Plant Based News Moderator.

Thank you for your answer and for posting the study. While the results are interesting, unfortunately they won’t translate into the real world. I work in that field and can tell you that it’s impossible to use the magic of statistics to “replace” a teaspoon of butter with a teaspoon of a different oil. The reason is that the confounders are simply too great. As such, more butter usually also comes with other aspects that affect the overall context of health, which can’t be reflected by statistics, because the statistics can never represent the complicated context of human health. Secondly, food frequency questionnaires are notoriously unreliable. The data at this point is certainly interesting, but unfortunately it doesn’t add up to much more than a gimmick. I would be very interested in a long-term study with healthy people on a low carb diet and a vegan diet, maybe with sports performance thrown into it.

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By: Plant Based News Moderator https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/#comment-7192 Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:05:55 +0000 https://plantbasednews.org/?p=266358#comment-7192 In reply to Holger Lundstrom.

Hi Holger, thanks for your comment. Sometimes people desire greasy fast food, whether they eat animals or not. It’s good to have an alternative that doesn’t harm animals and is familiar for people, but no one eats it thinking its a health food. Also worth noting in terms of the health of plant oils: In a recent cohort following 521,120 people looking at cooking oil/fat consumption and cardiometabolic disease, after adjusting for confounders, they found that each 1tbsp increase in butter intake (saturated animal fat) was associated with a 7% higher risk of total mortality, while each 1 tbsp of canola oil was associated with a 2% drop in risk, and olive oil was associated with a 3% drop. Part of the study included a substitution analysis, where researchers found that replacing 1tbsp of butter with any plant-based oil reduced risk of total mortality. Polyunsaturated and plant monounsaturated fats are health promoting, while saturated and trans fats are typically detrimental. Hope that clarifies things. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33853582/

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By: Holger Lundstrom https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/leading-restaurateur-fast-foods-future-vegan/#comment-7191 Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:20:36 +0000 https://plantbasednews.org/?p=266358#comment-7191 I’d like to see the future of fast food to be healthy and wholesome. Currently, it seems that we are trying to pump as many chemicals as possible into it, in addition with plant oils that are a lot more unhealthy than saturated animal fats. Replacing unhealthy stuff with other unhealthy stuff isn’t really a win for anybody.

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